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 Why Illegal Immigrants Will Be Included in Health Care Reform
Why Illegal Immigrants Will Be Included in Health Care Reform
In a landmark ruling, that most lawyers know about, and that every professor of constitutional law knows about, called Plyler vs. Doe (1982), the Supreme Court ordered Texas to make the same education available to illegal immigrants as it does to citizens picked by cb__ 2 months ago
tags illegal immigrants health care reform Plyler vs Doe
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 DoggySpe...
2 months ago
So even if Obama wants to exclude illegal immigrants, this case will annul that ruling ?
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 bcgrote
2 months ago
« DoggySpew:So even if Obama wants to exclude illegal immigrants, this case will annul that ruling ?
No. People from other countries come here to get health care already.

Hospitals in California, and other border states as well, I'm sure, are already failing due to the high cost of treating people who can't afford to pay, whether they're illegals, homeless, or just deadbeats or the dead.

The child of ANY immigrant, legal or otherwise who is BORN IN THE US is a citizen of the US, and should be able to get the same services as any other citizen. THAT is what the Texas rulings were really about. Providing services to citizens born in this country. Still not about illegals.

And remember, it isn't OBAMA who "wants to exclude", it's the writers of the bills, who add these little touches because it's what the VOTERS want. Obama was speaking from what the bills he had read say. It may end up that that won't be what happens, or what is passed into law. But it's not only Obama working on this, it's every member of Congress.
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 hoosker
2 months ago
« bcgrote:
The child of ANY immigrant, legal or otherwise who is BORN IN THE US is a citizen of the US, and should be able to get the same services as any other citizen. THAT is what the Texas rulings were really about. Providing services to citizens born in this country. Still not about illegals.
(a) the Constitution protects “persons” ; and (b) “persons” are citizens as well as strangers, people born here and people who end up here, people here lawfully and people here unlawfully; and (c) in the area of social services, whatever benefits the government makes available to the general public cannot be kept away from a class of persons based on their immigration status or that of their parents.


Think "Guantanamo"
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 cb__
2 months ago
^That's right. This isn't about children -born- in the U.S. A summary of the case can be found here.

"School officials may not require children to prove they are in this country legally by asking for documents such as green cards, citizenship papers, etc. They may only require proof that the child lives within the school district attendance zone, just as they might for any other child." ... etc ...

As the author said, "There is no question that under the present law, Congress simply cannot pick and choose which “persons” to whom it will afford social benefits and to which “persons” it will not." It's all about Equal Protection Under The Law.


That aside, who would have thought illegal immigrants can not only file lawsuits, but also have their day in court and affect law in a big way.
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 proverb
2 months ago
I'm kind of cold hearted towards illegals... When they enter the hospital for treatment they should be sent to room number 3. room number 3 is a door that has a waiting bus on the other side that will drive them to the boarder whre they can get medical attention from their own country. Yes... I'm an ass.
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 marcopol...
2 months ago
Get over it.
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